morningline is not a scientifically designed poll, and therefore no claims
are made as to the validity of its results.
copyright 1993, 1996 chicago sun-times, inc.
how does a survey of a small town, an unscientific survey by a chicago
newspaper and one from australia relate to librarians all over the country?
if i survey a group of gay men i will find that 100% of the group think
that men are fun to have sex with. is this true for all of america?
see where i'm going with this?
and fang: man, come on. you're not 12. calm down,
will you? you sound like you are pushing a shopping cart down
a freeway and wearing a cape made of fiberglass insulation.
good questions. first, i'm a guy working in his "spare"
time on this. i do not have the time and resources to produce
definitive results or to find them. i do what i can. the
opposition to my educational efforts to help people see past the ala
propaganda is a huge organization receiving huge funding from other
huge organizations. i just don't compete, and expecting me to
is not really fair.
which brings up your question. you asked, "how does a survey
of a small town ... relate to librarians all over the country?"
that presupposes once again that the huge behemoth, the ala, is paramount
to any individual community whose library the ala controls or attempts
to control. am i suppose to produce evidence about every single
american library before you will think i might have a point and the
ala might be too controlling? for that i'll rely on a 2000 report
called dangerous access by david burt and his collection of other related
back to your question, exactly what is the relevance of the oak lawn,
il, survey and the ala's actions there to force its agenda into the
community despite the lengths to which the community went to remove
such influence have on the rest of the country? good question.
answer? the ala is shown as having forcefully controlled public
library policy and actions, and nothing the community could do could
loosen the grip (although the community stopped short of legal action
due to the costs -- an advantage the ala uses against local communities).
oak lawn serves as an example of the control the ala has over local
communities and the lengths to which it will defend its control.
oak lawn serves to prove that the ala claims that a local community
control its own local libraries is false, at least some of the time
and in respect of the issue the ala is pushing. this false claim
of local control is used as the main argument against state filtering
the ala argues state filtering laws take away a local library's ability
to act locally for itself. yet at the same time the ala itself
controls local libraries, and oak lawn serves as an example. do
you know any other communities where the government, backed up by a
survey, officially asked the library to reconsider making playboy available
to children and the library refused and children still have access to
the material this very day?
the ala gets to thwart the people seeking to filter libraries by claiming
libraries must act locally, then the ala controls those very same libraries
so that it is impossible to act locally. does this seem fair to
you? does this seem fair to anyone? i know you can at least
be fair because even though you agree with fang face, at least you told
him to "calm down."
when the ala opposes state filtering laws by claiming such laws take
away the ability for local libraries to act locally, can the ala be
taken seriously when the oak lawn matter proves the ala itself controls
at least one local library? is not the ala's opposition to filters
really designed to protect the ala's very control over local public
libraries? indeed, aren't state filtering laws proposed and needed
precisely because local public libraries don't stand a chance against
and the oak lawn case proves this lack of local control. hence
the significance of oak lawn to the entire country.